Berks and Hants to Bristol and Penzance V2
8th July 2021BHBP merged The Railways of Devon and Cornwall (RDC) and South Western Expressways to Reading (SWER).
RDC started with, developed and vastly extended DTG’s ‘Riviera Line’. SWE-R started with and significantly extended and developed Just Trains’ ‘South Western Expressways’.
The combined new BHBP route has well over 300 miles of main, secondary and branch lines across southern and south west England:
• 219 miles of main line from Reading to Penzance along the Berks and Hants line via Newbury, Westbury, Taunton, Exeter, Plymouth and Truro.
• 37 miles of main line from Bristol to Taunton via Cogload Junction
• 21-miles of main and secondary line from Bristol to Bath and Westbury
• 28 miles of secondary line from Exeter to Axminster
• The secondary line from Newton Abbot to Paignton, and the Paignton and Dartmouth heritage railway onwards to Kingswear
• The Exeter to Exmouth branch
• The Exeter to Barnstaple branch, including the Dartmoor Railway heritage and testing line from Coleford Junction to Meldon Quarry via Okehampton
• The Plymouth to Gunnislake branch
• The Liskeard to Looe branch
• The Totnes to Falmouth branch
• The St Erth to St Ives branch
Scope and work in progress
BHBP will always be a work in progress. The aim is to reflect the up to date, contemporary railway. That’s why it will always be a work in progress and will never be finished!
V2 of BHBP V2 has full detailed scenery from
• Reading to just west of Liskeard
• Par to Burngullow (just west of St Austell)
• Just east of Truro to Penzance
• Taunton to Bristol, and from Bristol on to Westbury via Bath.
• Exeter to Honiton, Exmouth, Kingswear, Copplestone and Okehampton
• Plymouth to Gunnislake
• Liskeard to Looe
• St Erth to St Ives
BHBP includes the lines on from Honiton to Axminister and from Copplestone to Barnstaple. Like the Cornish Main Line sections from Liskeard to Par and from Burngullow to Truro, the track, stations, signalling and tunnels are there but as yet further detailed scenery has yet to be added. Watch this space!
What’s new in V2:
• Scenery between Redruth and Hayle has been added in full; the world heritage industrial area around Redruth, Pool, Camborne and Hayle is now complete.
• The rockfall shelter being built between the Parson and Clarke tunnels on the Dawlish sea wall section has been added. Nearby cliffs and sea wall have been completely remodelled and are now true to life.
• What’s known about the improvements currently being made to the Dartmoor Line between Coleford Junction and Okehampton have been replicated in BHBP. The track has been relaid with concrete sleepered welded rail. As more is know (for example about GSM – R masts) it will be added to BHBP.
Hey I recently download this and I want to the 800 scenario but every time I load in it says scenario failed. I’m pretty sure I got everything that is needed but where do I find out what is needed?
Just drove Paignton to Paddington on Martin Masterson’s merge of this route. It’s a cracking route. Well done! The only issues I have are a bunch of missing assets around Newbury Racecourse (the overgrown bits of platforms at the end of the station and the footbridge stairs, and also some warehouses nearby) and Newbury (just footbridge stairs) stations. I don’t have the old SWEX, only the new SWEXR, which the description above made it sound like would be compatible with this route, but I fear not completely. For v3 it might be worth looking at this area and perhaps using some of the new JT assets? Their racecourse grandstand would also look nice in this route.
Hi can i ask what asset you have used for platforms 4 and 3 at Penzance Please has far as i know i got all requirements but they are invisible.
Sorry you are not seeing P3 and 4 but I can only suggest re downloading all the requirements again as it is a local problem on your system, let us know hope you get on please.
I’m a little confused, does this also merge with Western Mainlines or not?
BHBP does not merge or link to WML, it is a route out of Reading via Newbury onto Devon and Cornwall
I guess we currently live in the ‘age of entitlement’ which has prompted me to actually express my gratitude, rather than be part of the probable silent majority that really appreciates the endless hours of work that has gone into this fantastic ‘share’.
I don’t own the required OHLE so aside from a fair few of the ubiquitous milk bottles on the way from/to Newbury nothing has been ‘ruined’ as claimed earlier by a previous poster.
This share is clearly built with enthusiasm rather than being built to a deadline or within a commercial budget and it shows in some lovely touches and details rippled throughout the content. Sure there may be some jiggling about getting some scenarios and stuff to work how I want them to work and there may be gaps in coverage over the entire area, but looking at what is there, rather than moaning about what isn’t, this is some top notch route building by any standard, commercial or otherwise.
Route requirements is always a thing, sometimes as in this case for me I didn’t require extra purchases and sometimes there’s a whole list I’m lacking in which case I can politely decline the generous offer of a free route. I never however feel a compulsion to wipe my dirty bum on the sheet provided for discussing said share.
Bravo Spoerers and all those involved in this project as I can already see you’ve certainly given me hours more fun in Train Sim for weeks to come.
Can anyone tell me what add on i need for the following assets please.
BMG\RoyalScotPack02\RailVehicles\Passenger\Mark1_coaches\MK1BFK\BR Maroon\mk1BFK_Maroon.bin
BMG\RoyalScotPack02\RailVehicles\Steam\RoyalScot\BR\Engine\royalscot_br_aws.bin
BMG\RoyalScotPack02\RailVehicles\Steam\RoyalScot\BR\Tender\tender_stanier_4000_BR_early.bin
and also the following reskin
Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\HST\FGWGWR\Mk3TSO\mk3tso_fgw_B_.bin
Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\HST\FGWGWR\Mk3TSO\mk3tso_fgw_C_.bin
Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\HST\FGWGWR\Mk3TSO\mk3tso_fgw_D_.bin
New concern. South Western Expressways, obviously, is a core component of this. But today, the original SWC – already pulled from Just Trains – left Steam as well, in both places now replaced with a SWE to Reading in full payware form. This might cause complications for your route. Either you change everything to require the new version, meaning existing users will be forced to buy the alternate version of the route to continue to use it, or you leave the original as the requirement and make it impossible for new users to play it. You might have to unfortunately start swapping track assets to other tracks to get rid of this complication.
That said, I don’t know if the original asset pack is actually included with the new SWE. If not, getting permission for your part to include any necessary assets from JT directly would be the best way to avoid this problem. You can then keep the Reading extension you designed instead of having to swap in everything for the new version of the route. How are you going to handle this?
This puzzled me too,luckily I had the original JT SWExpressway and by reinstalling it all the Assets I was missing – mainly the stations from Pewsey to Taunton – reappeared. One point we should all be aware of is that JT have stated that their latest update reflects how things were upto I think 2011 ie before electrification whereas BHBP quite clearly state that their route is up to the present day and will always be a work in progress.
I have been told that it will still be fine with the new SWEX-R as it contains the ols assets. Have not tested that.
This is an absolute joke. Shed load of payware required after running through TS Tools. Not even mentioned in the manual. You have also ruined the original non-electrified JT part of the extension, by adding OHLE.
Free or not it is a poorly presented mess.
Quite harsh I think!
Had started using the railways of Devon & Cornwall to v11 until this merge, now progress seemes to have accerlated a little more with large sections now being complete which I was starting to lose hope of seeing.
I had all the payware listed on this and the ontrack site and this route runs fine without a hitch. Of course there are a bunch of coaches and skins that may require further payware but I think they are mentioned in the manual fully and do not affect the route working at all.
Hope to see the Cornish Mainline finished and that Falmouth branch line soon!
Agreed, quite harsh. The new Penzance – Truro section is stunning.
Unless I’m missing something obvious, this uses the original JT Southwestern Expressways and not the new extended to Reading version – please correct me if I’m wrong.
I have all of the DLC listed, but checking with TS Tools did bring up a pretty long list of missing assets. Some are from DTG’s North London Line, which I have, but the pathing “Assets\DTG\NorthLondonLine\NorthLondonLineAssets\Scenery” doesn’t find them – “Assets\DTG\NorthLondonLineAssets\Scenery” would – I replaced each asset individually, which was tedious and there’s probably a much better way – I’m not an expert!
“Assets\Community\ProjectPlatform\” – I assume that these are originally from the Phorum Peninsula (long since deleted), but most of these assets are still available via the DTG London Transport Heritage Collection route, which is sort of “Son of Phorum” – strangely to be found under “Assets\DTG\Phorum”.
There are other bits and pieces that I can’t find – the Oovee stuff is probably Hatchet Hill Quarry (deleted) and some JT stuff also has an extra step in the pathing like the North London line stuff. The UKTS Audio_Ambient and the Kuju OcclusionVolume stuff I can live without.
Hope this is helpful.
Project Phorum indeed is covered in the LTHC. The reason the assets are separated is very simple: the old pack at Assets\Community\ProjectPlatform\ includes some trains that were part of the package, but are NOT part of the LTHC. That means a bunch of steam trains, some electrified train, and a few diesels are left out, plus some rolling stock. You get a different set of trains including a rehashed Class 20 (similar perhaps to the separate DLC and probably not worth using if you have the JT one). Hatchet Hill Quarry can actually still be had, and I did download it fairly recently (you can still buy it, believe it or not).
Thanks for the info Cyclone – and yes, I’ve just tried Googling Hatchet Hill Quarry and there is a working link to buy it from Steam (Steam Search denies all knowledge of course), but not with 65% off quoted – not sure it’s worth £14.99 to me at the moment, but it’s good to know it’s there if I need it.
I don’t have Project Phorum so mentioned LTHC as an alternative – it includes all but 2 or 3 of the assets needed – including the donkeys, which I need to keep an eye open for!
Wait for the next big sale. It will get discounted.
How is it that bring the section, Reading to Newbury, up to how it is now with OHLE has ruined it for you??
Thank you Mike. I’ll remember your positive, helpful comments when I’m burning yet more late night oil over v3 and it’ll warm my heart to know how much you’ve appreciated my free labour.
It’s up to you whether you install or use the route – its not compulsory. It’s grown like topsy over the years. Some previously required routes are no longer available or required – any remining milk bottles from them will be well hidden and not spoil any enjoyment.
An absolute joke? Well, if you say so. Have a nice day.
when is axminster and Morchard Road to Barnstaple getting scenery along with the south devon railway
Does anyone know of the wagons needed for the Night Riviera train along with 57? There, the list is incomplete and there are not enough repaints for cars from the Class 67 pack, as well as some others, but others, not those indicated on the ATS. Here are the paths to these folders: \RSC\Class67Pack01\RailVehicles\Passenger\MK3SLEP\GWR
\Kuju\RailSimulator\RailVehicles\Diesel\HST\GWR_NightRiviera
If anyone knows where to get these repaints, I would be very grateful.
Hi, I’m struggling to find the class 66 green Reskin & Blue reskin. also the FGWGWR_ HST reskins aswell please
also class 08 Black and RES reskins aswell please
It depends on the scenario – if it’s for the 166 Cascade 1 and 2, the 66s and 08 look to be reskins of the original RSDL versions, long since deleted, your best bet is to use TSTools, if you have it, to swap them for newer RSC 66 and 08 reskins – not sure about the HST – again, if you can, then swap for maybe the AP versions.
Incidentally, I get an OOM with Class 166 Cascade Part 1 and had the same problem with the previous version of the route – has anyone managed to run it?
Always happy to see updates to a route such as this. Will all existing scenarios for the prior version of the route work with this one, and does it use the same route reference folder?
All old scenarios should work fine, the new download will just add the new ones included in V2 if you already have V1.5. I would always recommend backing up scenarios just in case you forgot that you changed stock or whatever on an original…