Berks and Hants to Bristol and Penzance V4.1
8th July 2021Berks and Hants to Bristol and Penzance (BHBP) V4.1
What’s new in version 4.1
V4.1 adds the new colour light signalling and amended track and speed limits introduced by the Cornwall resignalling work undertaken in late 2023/early 2024. Colour light signals replaced the semaphore signals at Truro, Lostwithiel and Par, and the signalboxes at those locations were closed. The revised crossover arrangements at Truro are also included.
More scenery has been added between Bodmin Parkway and Lostwithiel, but it is not yet complete.
The Berks and Hants to Bristol and Penzance route (BHBP) merges
• High Speed Tracks’ The Railways of Devon and Cornwall (RDC)
• Martin Masterson’s South Western Expressways to Reading (SWER)
• Keith Ross’s 2013 rework of the original Railworks Kuju route from Paddington to Oxford.
The route develops and vastly extends DTG’s ‘Riviera Line’, Just Trains’ original ‘South Western Expressways’ and Kuju’s Great Western Main Line.
BHBP route has well over 350 miles of main, secondary and branch lines across southern and south west England:
• 253 miles of main line from Paddington to Penzance along the Berks and Hants line via Reading, Newbury, Westbury, Taunton, Exeter, Plymouth and Truro.
• 37 miles of main line from Bristol to Taunton via Cogload Junction
• 21-miles of main and secondary line from Bristol to Bath and Westbury
• 28 miles of secondary line from Exeter to Axminster
• The secondary line from Newton Abbot to Paignton, and the Paignton and Dartmouth heritage railway onwards to Kingswear
• The Exeter to Exmouth branch
• The Exeter to Barnstaple branch, including the Dartmoor Railway from Coleford Junction to Okehampton and the currently disused line onwards to Meldon Quarry
• The Plymouth to Gunnislake branch
• The Liskeard to Looe branch
• The Totnes to Falmouth branch
• The St Erth to St Ives branch
• The South Devon Railway heritage line from Totnes to Buckfastleigh
Scope and work in progress
BHBP will always be a work in progress. The aim is to reflect the up to date, contemporary railway between Paddington and Penzance. It will always need updating and will never be finished.
BHBP V4.1 has detailed scenery from
• London Paddington to just west of Bodmin Parkway
• Just east of Par to Burngullow (just west of St Austell)
• Just east of Truro to Penzance
• Taunton to Bristol, and from Bristol on to Westbury via Bath.
• Exeter to Honiton, Exmouth, Kingswear, Copplestone and Okehampton
• Newton Abbot to Kingswear
• Plymouth to Gunnislake
• Liskeard to Looe
• St Erth to St Ives
• Totnes to Buckfastleigh
BHBP includes the lines on from Honiton to Axminister and from Copplestone to Barnstaple. Like the Cornish Main Line from Bodmin Parkway to Par, from Burngullow to Truro, and the Falmouth branch; the track, stations, signalling and tunnels are there but detailed scenery has yet to be added. Work will now focus on the line between Bodmin Parkway and Par, which as yet only has scenery around Lostwithiel.
BHBP includes Keith Ross’s update of the original Kuju route from Paddington to Oxford. The sections from Paddington to Old Oak Common and from Twyford to Reading are completely new. The section in between is very low quality by modern standards. It has (simple) OHLE throughout and new signalling, but will disappoint. It will be brought up to current scenery standards in due course. Keith’s Heathrow branch is included. It is based on the original branch track layout and is of low quality by modern standards. It will be replaced with the modern track layout in due course.
The future
The first priority is to complete scenery on the Cornish Main Line. The next section to be completed will be Bodmin Parkway to Par. When the main line is finished, we will revamp the section from Totnes to Plymouth and completely rework the line from Old Oak to Twyford. The new Old Oak Common station currently under construction will also be included.
Required routes and assets
RDC and SWE-R used assets from a significant number of different sources between them, so BHBP’s required assets list is quite long. There’s no way around this for now, but the combined route offers hundreds of miles of main, secondary and branch line track, allowing lengthy, varied and totally immersive true to life scenarios.
BHBP just won’t work at all without your having:
Train Simulator Classic
DTG – The Riviera Line
DTG – The Riviera Line in the 50s
Just Trains – South Western Expressways
BHBP requires the first iteration of JT’s SWE, NOT the current version that extends the route to Reading. The first iteration is available at the Alan Thomson Simulation website. BHBP will not work with the later iteration that’s available on JT’s website.
BHBP may work – but only just in some cases – without your having the routes and assets shown below. BUT there will be milk bottles galore and big gaps in the scenery. It would be rubbish.
Payware:
Steam:
Brighton Main Line
Town Scenery Pack
Platform Clutter Pack
West Somerset
North Somerset
WCML North
European Loco and Asset Pack (Not required if you had Train Simulator before Sept 2012)
South Wales Coastal *Replaces Bristol to Cardiff (the previous version) as a requirement
Just Trains:
Western Main Lines (none of the route extensions are needed)
Bristol to Exeter
Newcastle to Edinburgh
Alan Thomson Simulation (ATS):
ATS OHLE Pack
Freeware:
DP Simulation:
Barnstaple to Exeter
Chris Trains:
NS Station and Object Scenery
Vulcan Productions:
VP Grass Pack (Download V3 of the pack towards the bottom of this page)
Major Wales:
IET/EMU Stop Sign Pack
Required assets from UKTS are now bundled with with route zip file.
We strongly recommend that you get hold of and install all of the above required routes and assets before you install BHBP.
The vast majority of problems reported in requests for support are caused by failure to have required assets installed.
The section between London Paddington and Twyford has a mixture of AP track and some Oxford track, is that how it should be at present (until it is fully updated)?
Is there a updated version?
Hi everyone ive since found out that you need North East Corridor New York to Philladelphia for some assets to generate for example :- platforms at Heathrow, Also a Very large rail bridge that crosses over the mainline at the junction for Heathrow. I also found that installing Martin Masterson’s South Western Expressways to Reading. seperatly from On Track Simulations helped with some more missing assets. hope this helps 🙂
great route however I have no platforms showing at Bedwyn ??? Ive checked I have all the requirements including the specific JT south western expressway.
any advice would be much appreciated
Re Bedwyn did you fix that problem as that my part of the build? Did you run the .bat file to copy the geos in???
hello im having problems downloading buying things off of the just trains website will the route work if i buy the just trains requirements from ats store
for some reason reading, taunton, paddington and many other stations don’t load in for me? only some of the benches and platform numbers and lamps, also sometimes under the track the map disappears so im going on floating tracks? anyone able to help?!
for some reason reading, taunton, paddington and many other stations don’t load in for me? only some of the benches and platform numbers and lamps, also sometimes under the track the map disappears so im going on floating tracks? anyone able to help?!
it also is paignton to pad line aswell have i installed smth wrong??
I think its a problem with berks and hants as paignton to paddington requires this and mostly depends on this.
I also do have all the requirements…
Can someone me say, where i found the Assets with the Folder > BenGarfirth\Source …
Is the old JT South Western Expressways Required or the new version?
It clearly says;
“South Western Expressways is the first iteration of JT’s SWE, NOT the current version that extends the route to Reading. The first iteration is available at the Alan Thomson Simulation website. BHBP will not work with the later iteration that’s available on JT’s website.”
Still confused as hell. When you install a route it will ask do you wish to override etc and no idea what to do next where you have the route from Just trains installed and then wish to install the old version so you can use bhbp v 4.1 Any help would be much appreciated.
Major issues with this route, cant open doors at a lot of the stations no idea why? Something to do with pick up passenger instructions but each of the incuded scenarios looks correct, Massive Lag spike at St Erth too.
pc problem
I don’t think it is a PC problem, the route is very laggy between Old Oak & Twyford, just after Pewsey station and also between Liskeard and Bodmin – i do not have lag issues with v3 of the route nor with any other route in TS. My guess is that these sections are asset rich and this definitely needs looking at as it is undriveable.
The reason for the lag spikes/fps drops between Liskeard and Bodmin is because the author has unbelievably used near trees for the mass amount of trees in the distance and near distance.
yea when i downloaded BHBP i had all requirements except exeter to bristol i now finally got exeter to bristol and even uninstalled BHBP then reinstalled it like how it said in the manual and suddenly i also now have lag spikes at Penzance to st erth, liskeard to bodmin parkway, paddington to reading, and even small spikes between newton abbot and plymouth despite this never happening before i got bristol to exeter its rlly strange and annoying cause it rlly breaks the emersion hopefully this gets fixed soon
amazing route but there is 1 problem on the route selector it shows up as BHBP 2.1 I dont know if i have done something wrong.
that is correct
Superb route, many thanks to the developers. I think this is possibly the best route available for Train Simulator Classic. I just wish that, given the time it takes to develop each section in such detail, the 2 remaining missing scenery chunks from the Penzance mainline could be subbed in from the Just Trains Route and removed during a future update. But thats just impatience! Very minor problems…one or two bridges with no supports or ‘non touching’ supports near Hayle and a floating Sainsbury’s sign near Penzance. But the scenery is otherwise stunning and puts the Train Sim World scenery clearly into second place! Please just finish it as I am not getting any younger! lol
I seem to have missing platforms at Newbury Racecourse and incomplete bridges.I have all the requirements .Anyone know which route the Newbury assets come from.Great route by the way everything else is fine,its just Newbury
missing requirements (I think your missing the OG south wales costal
Many thanks for a lovely route. I have just installed v.3, but it still shows as v2.1. Is that correct or have I done something wrong?
nothing wrong high speed tracks (HST) just forgot to rename it so yes V3
Thank you for your work on this route, it allows for some epic journeys. However I would agree with the comment below in that there are some seriously big lag spikes throughout the Paddington to Penzance journey – especially between Taunton and Tiverton Parkway, Liskeard to Bodmin amongst others. I would imagine this makes the game pretty much unplayable for anyone not fortunate enough to have a high end machine. Would be great if you could look into this. Thanks
I am very impressed with the merging routes. I have got all of the above to work with the BHBP route. In the past, I did purchase the DVD option of the Bristol to Exeter route via JustTrains and finally sold it on years ago, due to developers introducing the Western Mainlines and their extensions. I was wondering if the developers of BHBP had used assets from the original Bristol to Exeter route? The reason that I am asking is due to the fact, (“as mentioned the route is never finished”) and find that Tiverton Parkway is missing its building and platforms and just left with a floating woman figure I assume is on the footbridge and lamp posts that are missing the name plates of the station, some ‘milk bottles’ are in place. I did check my Train Simulator and according to the lists, I do have Bristol to Exeter installed, as well as other assets that are important to have. I decided to ‘repair’ this area via the World Editor using the assets available, for which they are. The downside is, when another update is available, I might have to repair it all again. Any other reason why Tiverton is missing its station scenery? Thanks in advance.
Hi, Again, I am very happy with the routes merging as BHBP! Excellent work from the creators!
Just an update: July 06 2024…I did purchase the Bristol to Exeter route again by JT download and the station at Tiverton Parkway has now re appeared and done the trick. ***Can I also advise people to ensure that their scenery settings are set to *full* otherwise you will get ‘missing assets’ such as station nameboard posts and floating objects. I found this out when in World Editor as I was hovering the mouse cursor over a platform, I found a streetlamp appearing when it was invisible at Penzance station. 😉
Hi there, a brilliant and much-appreciated addition to Train Simulator but in the area that should be compatible with the AP track EP (south of Whiteball as far as I’m aware) seems to have some random patches of non-AP track, particularly around Exeter St Davids and Plymouth in a few platforms. Laira also has a few in the sidings. I’ve also found that Gunnislake and Barny/Oke branches seem to have AP track but remain with the Kuju ‘track bed rumble’ sound. Any help would be appreciated. Nonetheless, always fantastic to see my local area (Devon) in a more modern form in TS. Cheers